Saturday, November 17, 2007

The Dusk of Islam, Part 1

In 2007, I read two news stories to begin with.

In one:Ahmadnejab-president of Iran claimed that he prays to the God but Bush-president of U.S. prays to the Devil.

In second:Muslim mullahs and scholars sent open letter to the Pope claiming that Muslims and Christians worship same God.

so I wonder: IS THE GOD THE DEVIL ?

Christians believe that Christ was crucified and Muslims believe the opposite that Christ was not crucified;two opposing beliefs cannot be both right.

Further more: I remember one of the explanations by Muslims/Mullahs states that Christ made someone else look like him to be crucified.

That will make Christ a Cheat and a Deceiver and that is, again, opposite to the Christian belief of the Christ the Compassionate.

My name is Tayyab,Aziz. I was born,9 November 1945, in Panjab,India which was partitioned by the British in 1947 into India and Pakistan on religious grounds.

Being born in muslim family, I became citizen of Pakistan. In 1974, I came to Canada as Landed Immigrant and became Canadian citizen in 1978.

When I was young, I was a devout muslim but as I grew older I started to have problem with God, Islam and muslims who,now I believe, are ignorant and illtolerant.

Islamic belief is based on rewards 'swabs' and punishments 'sins' and the objective is to collect more 'swabs' than 'sins' to pass The Judgement.

Failure to practice mandatory items, praying or fasting in Ramadan, will result in automatic collection of 'sins' but one can collect 'sins' by simply questioning.

For example reading Quran is 'swab' and not reading Quran means no 'swab' but if one questions as to why? one is collecting 'sin'.

One can tranfer 'swabs' but not 'sins' e.g. one can,after reading Quran, say that 'swab' of reading Quran go to so and so dead or living.

The idea that questioning the rules will result in collecting 'sins' not just discourages questioning but also instils terror in a muslim child who grows up to be ignorant and illtolerant.

I remember when my son who was at the time a 4-5 year old child recited the Christian prayer, Our Father _ _ _ , I got very angry at him.

Islam's God, Allah, cannot be called Father because Quran specifically states ' He begets not, nor was He begotten '.

Muslims believe in Mohammad's claim that he is the last messenger of God, Allah, who sent messengers before him like Jesus, Soloman, David, Moses with books like Quran.

Muslims are told that those old books have been changed by Christians and Jews and are told not to read those because Quran overrides them all.

But, after that angry burst of mine at my son, I became curious and got a Bible from a co-worker and started reading it and realised mine and other muslims' ignorance.

Quran is believed/claimed to be a book from God, Allah, and brought to Mohammad by angel Gabriel and Bible's new Testament was written by deciples and followers of Jesus.

Therefore, Quran's claim, that it is a book just like the previous book(s), is false and I started to think about and question all claims made by Islam, Mohammad and Quran.

I started to find that the very claims by Mohammad and Quran themselves prove all the claims to be false.

For example the very claim by Mohammad that he receives messages from God, Allah, through Gabriel makes Gabriel the massenger of Allah not him.

Mohammad tells his followers who were praying loud not to pray loud because God, Allah, is so close He can hear their whispers then claims that he went to a distant place to meet Him.

Many places in Quran it says 'Qala Mosa' meaning that these are words of Moses proving itself that it is not the word of God, Allah, as is claimed by Mohammad.

To make it easy to understand let me say: Qala president Kenedy, ask not what your country can do _ _ _ . Just by putting Qala presedent Kenedy I cannot claim his words to be mine.

Therefore, if Quran itself proves Mohammad's claims false, does it not mean that Mohammad is a false prophet and Islam is a false religion?

Furthermore, Islam's claim of being universal and applicable to all is false because it cannot be practiced every where.

In order to understand one needs to use present knowledge of starwars and aliens living elsewhere in the universe and think of applying Islam to e.g. people living on the Moon where Islamic moon calender gets thrown out the window.So no moon calender hence no month of Ramadan to fast and no hajj and no k'aba, no way to face for daily 5 prayers.

Now let us come down to Earth and go to Antarctica where there is night for 6 months and day for 6 months so the daily prayer becomes yearly 5 prayers and no way of daily fasting in the month of Ramadan because Quran has specific instructions as to the timing of the begining of fast at dawn and ending at sunset and Mohammad has given specific instructions as to the timing of prayers: morning 'fajr' at dawn before sunrise, 'zhr' after midday when shadow increases one length, 'asr' after shadow increase two lengths, 'mgrb' after sunset and 'esha' after dusk at night fall.

Therefore muslims living in northern countries like Norway, the land of the midnight sun, can only practice Islam if they have changed/modified clear instructions of Quran and Mohammad hence proving themselves that Islam is a fake/false and outdated religion that needs change/modification and hence cannot be divine as they claim.

As a matter of fact, present day muslims with present day knowledge of Earth being round and going around Sun and not the other way around as described in Quran, do not believe what Mohammad and his companions/followers believed that Earth is flat and Sun rises from a pond in East and sets in a pond in West and that, in my opinion, makes them all 'Kafirs'.

Now that I have concluded present day muslims including myself as 'Kafirs', there is no reason for me to continue practice Islam and even believe in it because my present day knowledge/belief of the universe can never be the same as the sixth century's knowledge and beliefs of Mohammad and his companions/followers and therefore, for me and all others 'Allah' becomes the God the Devil.

Therefore, I replaced 'Allah' with the Savior the Christ the Compassionate the Merciful the Lord and the Judge of the Day of the Judgement for my prayer because you can be in any century or on any planet in the universe you can pray ' Heavenly Father, Holy is thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven ' and it does not even matter if you believe heaven to be simply an imagination or an imaginary place.


theunemployedunion said...

Welcome to the Body of Christ! May your knowledge of and faith in Him be increased daily with your study of the Bible.

Reasat said...

to me it seems u simply lacks knowledge.......and i feel u r unlucky......i could have said many more things..... presently i got the impression that u r surrounded with darkness... Any of my words might not be enough to change ur thoughts.....
onething i would request ,as u have thought of islam and cristanity and got many questions and came to a conclusio0n of islam, muhammad(p.b.u.h)and allah that they r wrong...., plz thing a little more..... still i wrote knowing that all MY words CANT HELP......hope ALLAH HELPS U to GET RID OF THE Darkness.......

Aziz Tayyab said...

Muslims who are the most ignorant, like commenter Reasat, think that they have the knowledge of islam and that is why a muslim is muslim because he/she is ignorant.

mohib said...

You said: Islam is false according to it's own claims e.g. it claims that Jesus Christ was neither killed nor was crucified and went to heaven alive and christians believe that he was crucified and died and then was resurrected and went to heaven.
Reply: Isa Alaihissalam was picked up from the room he was in and transformed one of the Israelite assailants as him. The one who was crucified was actually one of the assailants. Isa Alaihissalam is in the fourth sky, not in Jannah (Heaven) and he will be returning on earth as ummah of Prophet Mohammad (Sm) not and repeat not as a prophet. His importance is to help recovery of some the confused souls to the true path and exterminate Dajjal. He will be on earth for 40 more years and die normally.
You said: In either case Jesus is alive somewhere and the God knows this. Therefore, the God has a living prophet/messenger according to islam/muslim belief which makes Mohammad's claim as prophet / messenger of the same God as a false claim.
Reply: Isa Alaihissalam is in the fourth sky, not in Jannah (Heaven) and he will be returning on earth as ummah of Prophet Mohammad (Sm) not and repeat not as a prophet. His importance is to help recovery of some the confused souls to the true path and exterminate Dajjal. He will be on earth for 40 more years and die normally.
You said: That makes Mohammad a prophet/messenger of the Devil and makes islam a cult of the Devil
and muslim worship as the Devil worship therefore their alla or allah is the Devil. Islam's / Mohammad's claim and muslims' belief that Mo. is the last prophet/messenger of alla or
allah is false and foolish. Mohammad is first, last and only one lone prophet/messenger of alla or allah. Prophets/messengers of the Bible, Jesus, Soloman, David, Moses,Ibrahim,Noah,Adam and the God has nothing to do with Islam / Mohammad/muslims and their alla or allah. The stories in quran about them are there only to legitimize Islam/Mohammad/muslims and their alla or allah. These stories, some correct and some incorrect, Mohammad learned from arab storytellers. He used to travel in caravans with his uncle when he was a young boy. As was customary, at the end of the day caravan will stop to rest for the night and after dinner they will gather around the storytellers and listen their stories. Quran is no miracle, as muslims claim/believe, it is simply an incoherent recollections of Mohammad of those stories.
Reply: I will not show anger regarding your crazy comment, coz satan is always trying people to do bad things. Picking someone is a bad deed too. Prophet (Sm) warned about picking on anyone. Let me point out some good information you have overlooked, Adam Alaihissalam was informed about Prophet Mohammad (Sm) and so were Nuh Alaihissalam, Ibrahim Alaihissalam, Musa Alaihissalam, Da'ud Alaihissalam Solaimaan Alaihissalam, Uzair Alaihissalam, Zakaria Alaihissalam, Yahya Alaihissalam, Zarzish Alaihissalam, Sham'un Alaihissalam and then Isa Alaihissalam. It is said in Quran, (It means nearly like) if you dare to challenge the genuinity of Quran, then make one like that, and then Allah said… you people can use your best scholars and all of the time you need, but you can't make anything like it, not even a surah nor an ayah similar to the ayah of Quran.
The merest example for Quran being a miracle is, it can be memorized entirely. Whereas other books can't be memorized entirely. It is said in Quran, (It means nearly like) Quran is no poem nor story but law itself (the law for the believers and the one who interest thyself on good deeds).

Assalamu a'la man Ittaba'a Al huda.

mohib said...

You said: It is sad that so many people have been fooled by an ignorant/illiterate 6th century arab for so many years.
Muslims need to ask themselves some simple questions like: Why was Mohammad illiterate? If not in childhood, after marrying wealthy Khadija, he should not have had any problem to pay to learn to read and write.
Reply: The time of the prophet (sm) was so terrible; people use to make war on worthless causes. And these wars were fought for decades. One of the wars was fought the time of the young age of Prophet (Sm) for 75 years and the reason of the war was, a camel drank water from the storage of other tribe. People used to bury their baby daughters just because they might be called father of daughters. The strong were applauded as they tormented and loot the weak. After marrying Khadijatul Qubra (Radiyalluhu Anha) Prophet (Sm) became very busy on taking care of the business of both wife and uncle. He was running an association of protecting the weak from the terrifying strong ones named Hilful fujul. In free time he used to pass on thinking in a solitary cave on top of a mountain called 'Hera'. Khadijatul Qubra (Radiyalluhu Anha) used to take food for him. He has been there for longer times probably like days. Makkah was not a place that people could be taught in or be safe without harm. These awful facts hurt the soft heart of The Prophet (Sm) too much. At the age 40 The Prophet (Sm) was ordered to warn the people for future, the future life after death and the way to protect themselves. The first Muslim was Khadijatul Qubra (Radiyalluhu Anha) and then Hazrat Abubakar Siddique (Radiyalluhu Anhu) and among boys, cousin of Prophet (Sm) Hazrat Ali bin Abutalab (Radiyalluhu Anhu)

mohib said...
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mohib said...

You said: Who is this arab alla or allah? Was he not one of the Idols arabs used to worship before Islam?
If Mohammad is/was a prophet and this alla or allah was all knowing; why they did not know that a huge petroleum oil reserve lay belowground when Mohammad used to run around above
ground i.e. was alive because that would have changed arabs' lives as it has done nowadays?
If Gabriel is bringing messages from alla or allah then Gabriel is messenger of alla or allah not Mohammad?
If alla or allah is omnipresent and as close to you as your blood then why Mohammad had to go to a distant place to meet him? Mirage means something illusory.
When in quran it says "qala Mosa", "qala Farona" does it not mean that those are the words they
said to each other and not the words of alla or allah thus proving itself that quran is not the word
of alla or allah?
Reply: In one point you are right here. Allah is not God. God word can be changed in gender. Example: God<-> Goddess. See here that, Allah word can't be dissected in gender. Any side you pronounce it, you are going to same word Allah, (Halla, Lillah, Allah, Hullah By the way….. you have to pronounce it in Arabic to make yourself easy) : None of these words can be changed in gender.
Certainly Allah knew about reserve. But Allah doesn't want people to be engaged in earthly pleasures. The prophet (Sm) informed through Jibra'el Alaihissalam that, lots of groups of peoples will be joining Islam very soon. Dear writer, for your kind information, The Arabs reached till France, Spain, Italy, Yugoslavia, deep in Russia till Caucasus region , Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Armenia, China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, India, Africa continent and even in South America. Do you think the Muslims in these countries are Arab in origin? No they are not. They are originated from the same country. They were from different religions and they were literate. They embraced Islam and found safety and purity in the process of life. They arrayed their lives in the beauty and found the real peace people are always eager to get into. Earthly life is like sitting in the waiting room awaiting train or like someone has entered the toilet and will get out when requirement is completed.
Yes, Me'raj is illusory but for the disbelievers only. Like we don't see oxygen with bare eyes and so oxygen is illusory, we don't see magnetic attraction and so it's illusory. We don't see fragrance and so it's illusory, we don't see voice and so it's illusory, we can't confirm a 100% about our father and mother and so the relation is false and illusory, we don't see deadly gases, people dies and you say it's illusory. Great!!
In Quran when said Qala Musa, It's said like Allah azza wajal is saying that, "Musa Alaihissalam said" or "Fera'wn said". Certainly they said to each other and Allah azza wajal has quoted in Quran as a lesson for us. That is the way how to offer the truth to anyone and that is to do when refused by the tyrant (Fera'wn) or disbeliever.
All of your logics are funny. Please confirm about your ask first. If you want to find the truth, Allah will help you. If you want to harm the truth, then I will say Allah is enough for you.

Aziz Tayyab said...

I have already written that a muslim is muslim because he/she is ignorant and comments by "mohib" is a clear proof of that.All he has written is absolute rubbish.
The very concept of an angel bringing messages from "alla or allah" is not in the Bible. No one from Moses to Jesus said that what the are saying is brought to them by some angel and what they said e.g. yesterday they made that up all by themselves so call one quran and the other hadith. This should be enough for anyone with any brain to realize that alla or allah is not the God of Moses or Jesus and prophets of the Bible and therefore is satan who fooled mohammad into believing that it is god.
Bible(1John2:22) clearly defines the Antichrist the Liar as the one that denies the Father and the Son.
That means that alla or allah, mohammad and muslims are all Antichrist(s) and Lairs; and islam is false and a lie.